09:00:27 From glennjuday : All the grad student photos are so iconic! I think we can all relate to those scenes - “I’ve seen/experienced something just like that.” 09:01:19 From Mary Beth Leigh to Jason Downing(Privately) : We’d like you to run them for Teresa and me. Thanks! 09:05:01 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : I really like this schematic Mary Beth and Teresa! 09:05:21 From Mary Beth Leigh : Thanks! Teresa had the great idea for the conceptual diagram. 09:12:46 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : I totally agree with this assessment of wetting/drying, but will just point out that lowlands are unlikely to remain “wetter” forever. So it will interesting to think about transitions and whether that always involves regional hydrologic flow? 09:13:40 From Ted Schuur : Yes — I agree that gradients of water/wetness from dry to wet is a good framework to link lowlands and uplands 09:15:18 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : @Ted yes as long as we recognize that local gradients can interact with regional gradients through recharge discharge processes. The experiment at the rich fen is a great example. 09:16:13 From Will Cox (he/him) : Is it accurate to say that the wetland systems are getting more variable in terms of hydrology? Thinking of alpha switching between 1m above and 1m below 09:17:45 From Brian Buma : reminds me of glacial streams, anticipated to get higher in late season for a while then decline. Important to interpret not as a long-term trend necessarily but perhaps a temporary wetting then long term drying? (hump shaped sort of trend) 09:17:52 From Helene Genet : Good point Merritt - we are currently looking at the potential relationship btw soil moisture dynamic and discharge at the catchment level. It’s about 30 sites I think scattered across alaska 09:18:15 From Mary Beth Leigh : Artists: this is also a great opportunity for you to bring a perspective from outside of our science-intensive blinders. 09:18:58 From Vladimir Romanovsky : The spatial "patchiness" of permafrost thaw will create numerous wet areas in the upland area as well during the transition period (which could be pretty long - 50-100 years) 09:19:09 From Todd Brinkman : Yes, Artists! This question might also dig into how we might communicate more effectively. 09:19:14 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : @Will yes I think probably along intermediate scales. Ultimately though I think the trajectory is drying in the long run 09:19:29 From Alison York : Yes, Christa makes an excellent point about the value of syntheses for communicating with public and stakeholders 09:19:56 From Teresa Hollingsworth : YES! Artists, please contribute! What concerns do YOU want LTER to focus on! 09:20:47 From Katie Spellman : @Alison In the strategic plan section of today we’ll talk about the dream of having a dedicated BNZ science communicators (just like Toolik!) 09:21:22 From Alison York : Thanks Katie 09:22:04 From Christa Mulder : A dedicated science communicator would definitely be enormous helpful. 09:22:28 From Todd Brinkman : Jessie, your comments about wood products were great. We could definitely help address those issues. 09:23:41 From Jessie Robertson : Awesome Todd. It's been really beneficial to sit and chat with people using the forest resources. They've made a lot observations, and each one is a big science question. We should talk more. 09:23:43 From Tamara : Agree with Ted. Understanding how much carbon is stored in the boreal forest and how storage might change is fundamental to projecting other ecological and climate change 09:24:09 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : Building on Ted’s comments, the communities that I work with in NW Canada take their role as stewards or guardians of the land seriously just like many Alaskans. They talk often about how the right to be cold is being taken away from them, and this causes anxiety. 09:25:12 From Alison York : Re Teresa is your house safe from fire, here is a video Jen Schmidt at UAA did on the aftermath of the 2019 McKinley fire, which by the way burned rapidly in mostly deciduous fuels and way deep into surface leaving hot ash pits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no8dvnjbdHY&t=4s 09:26:02 From Teresa Hollingsworth : Very cool Alison! Thanks for sharing 09:26:03 From Katie Spellman : If you are not yet a member or consultant of the Alaska Native Health consortium’s Local Environmental Observer Network, consider joining now. It is a very fun community and a way to put the science in your head and hidden away in your journal articles into action for our communities. leonetwork.org 09:27:23 From Christa Mulder : What Katie said is definitely true - I ended up on the CBC in Yukon the other week trying to explain that late flowering plants were not highly unusual (though they might be becoming more common 09:31:52 From Will Cox (he/him) : That was one of the themes that emerged from northern research at last year's AGU: the importance of understanding the changing dynamics during the shoulder seasons 09:33:19 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : In the BNZ lowlands, closed taliks are now becoming open taliks and this is causing really rapid ecological change. 09:33:20 From Jessie Robertson : @Will, we've been seeing a lot of interesting dynamics in tree growth and water use dynamics in the shoulder seasons. The trees don't go dormant when they drop their leaves in the fall. Long term measurements are so important for determining the shifts in the shoulder seasons 09:33:25 From Christa Mulder : Will, I think that's a great theme. The spring shoulder season gets some attention because of the very rapid, highly visible changes but the fall season is often kind of ignored - even though there is enomous variation there. 09:34:06 From ursel schuette : With regards to what Christa said. I wonder if it's not just the microbial activity that matters, but the type of microbes that are present post disturbance, and if the change in microbial community results in a mismatch of microbes to e.g. plants and that post-disturbance the belowground system functions below its optimum and that has negative effects on the aboveground system 09:35:34 From Helene Genet : Agree Vladimir! About the limitation of using only modeling to assess emerging processes. 09:35:52 From glennjuday : Yesterday nearly all of the North Slope was much warmer than the Interior, and coastal locations were up to near freezing temperatures. This is radical change promoted by Arctic sea ice reduction, and is likely to propagate down to interior Alaska and western Canada. 09:36:25 From Mary Beth Leigh : Ursel: yes, it does seem that a recurring question is microbes in time and space. This is another dimension. 09:36:29 From Christa Mulder : Ursel, interesting idea! I imagine that microbial populations can shift pretty quickly given their short generation times, but if there is really high variation between years, especially around that crucial 0 degree C, that may not be true. 09:36:33 From Helene Genet : I would suggest that data assimilation effort (how field / lab / satellite data can inform models) should be a focus of the modeling work in the next proposal. 09:36:35 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : I like what Tamara is suggesting. When I think of connectivity I think of water flow. But if we step up to the BNZ program level, we could define connectivity in so many ways. Let’s write a conceptual paper that outlines this. 09:36:57 From Jessie Robertson : @Vlad, The FSL has tested rainfall manipulations (additions) and put in a proposal to manipulate rainfall frequency and amount. If you want to hear more about this, I can let you know more about what we're looking at. 09:37:41 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : There is increasing horizontal….vertical connectivity. Water, nutrients, sediments, biological material connections. But the scale of these different types of connections might vary 09:41:42 From Joel Eklof (he/him/his) : @Vlad, I completely agree. Becca Neumann and I are hoping that our ~80 temperature sensors (thermistor every 10 cm from surface into permafrost with 15-minute measurement interval) from the upper forest (near the Taj) down into the bog complex will be able to help describe some of the physics behind energy input by rain (and supply checks on current models). One of our transects also spans a likely major flow path, which could also supply some additional insights. These were installed in August 2020, and we will have our first data from these sensors this summer. 09:42:00 From Ted Schuur : @Mark microbial dispersal — I like the idea of talik as a test for whether that could be important 09:42:32 From Brian Barnes : Todd, Dr. Don Larson, Adjunct Prof with UAF Biol and Wildlife is a parasitologist with research interests; 09:44:04 From ursel schuette : Jessica Ernakovich et al submitted a perspective on exactly these ideas on microbial assembly processes post permafrost thaw. 09:44:34 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : +1 Mario. There is a nice conceptual paper waiting to be written here 09:45:16 From Tamara : memory effects are a huge open question in connectivity emergence research in ecology and well beyond 09:47:02 From Mary Beth Leigh : Thanks everyone. Great microbial ideas! Connectivity through space and time. 09:48:56 From Christa Mulder : Following up on MB's comments, it looks like we can link the connectivity in time issues to other phenology questions - they obviously link directly to plants and from there to animals. 09:49:55 From Mary Beth Leigh : Good point, Christa. Lots of ways this concept can work! 09:49:55 From Lee Taylor : We have shown that fungi cycle through seasons in black spruce soils. Surprisingly, some mycorrhizal taxa were more prominent in winter. But talic would likely change these dynamics, e.g. allowing talic residents to recolonize or reactivate more quickly. A huge question to me is the balance between recolonization (new biomass) and reactivation. 09:50:44 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : +1 Lee: That is a really cool 09:51:17 From Mary Beth Leigh : Yes, super interesting, Lee 09:51:58 From Teresa Hollingsworth : Lee- as you can imagine, I think it would be really interesting to think about how colonizing fungi in talik affects plant community composition 09:51:59 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : Dampened successional cycles can have very large impacts on recolonization and reactivity. We have visualized succession in ordination space and this would be very easy to conceptualize in that type of frame work 09:52:10 From Vladimir Romanovsky : @Joel, It will be great to look at these data. Though, there could be some problems related to installation impact on the measurement results 10:02:53 From Joel Eklof (he/him/his) : @Vlad, I agree. Let's talk soon. The new instruments are only 1/2" in diameter which should help reduce the installation impact. They all had a tight fit during installation, which should hopefully cut down on preferential flow a bit, but it would be great to talk about strategies to help get a more accurate view of what is actually taking place. 10:04:30 From Ted Schuur : BNZ LTER dream team!; looking forward to this next cycle 10:06:25 From Christa Mulder : What Jamie is not telling you about his expertise is that he is AWESOME with kids! He's integral to the Fostering Science program 10:07:33 From Teresa Hollingsworth : Christa: YES! He is a jack of many trades… but I am probably biased :) 10:07:59 From Will Cox (he/him) : Woo, Splachnum! 10:08:13 From Christa Mulder : Splachnum rock! 10:10:16 From Helene Genet : Looking forward the hack-a-tons !!! 10:10:48 From Jamie Hollingsworth (he/him) : yes 2001 10:12:33 From Alison York : Alaska Fire Science Consortium website: akfireconsortium.uaf.edu 10:13:24 From Jason Downing : http://www.lter.uaf.edu/sympo/2020/BNZ_ProposalTimeline.pdf 10:13:26 From Christa Mulder : Is there anyone working on fire and COVID impacts? I'm thinking of the fact that air pollution increases the negative impacts of COVID 10:13:49 From Alison York : Yes Micah Hahn at UAA is looking at that 10:14:24 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : Christa, this is a major area of research in Colorado. When air quality is compromised by fire it runs counter to best practices for covid in many (not all) households. 10:14:55 From Todd Brinkman : Christa, Micah Hahn (UAA) is looking into the health consequences. I'm not sure about linkages with COVID. 10:15:17 From Alison York : She is interested in COVID interactions too 10:18:28 From Christa Mulder : Merritt, interesting that this is a big deal in Colorado. Thanks for the info on Micah Hahn, Todd and Alison 10:18:34 From Katie Spellman : Our education research is suggesting that these integrative elements are increasing the science self-efficacy and STEM Identity development among youth. 10:19:07 From Christa Mulder : Katie, YES!! It's a huge deal. 10:19:41 From Teresa Hollingsworth : I would suspect it is a big deal in CO because of the huge fires years there over the summer and fall. We had such a mild fire year, that we didn’t have to think about the fire/covid interactions very deeply 10:19:44 From Christa Mulder : Mary Beth, beautifully said 10:19:54 From Jessie Robertson : I'm curious how we reach the folks that are not connected to our arts or education outreach efforts. I'm thinking about the folks that may elect officials that routinely vote against funding the university. 10:20:54 From Alison York : Excellent point Todd! 10:21:01 From ursel schuette : We (Devin Drown and Mary Beth) are currently looking at changes in microbial (bacterial/ archaeal) changes post-fire and associations with these changes with soil moisture and canopy composition across sites Yukon Tanana flats in the BNZ site network. Initial data analysis shows changes with time post-fire and soil moisture, in particular spatial heterogeneity is affected with time post fire. Surprisingly deciduous vs coniferous has no association with microbial composition, but we will run network analysis next to see if there isn't an association between particular microbial taxa and canopy/ plant composition because this has been shown in succession post disturbance in other systems. 10:21:12 From Mary Beth Leigh : Yes, we do need to include policy - and how broader engagement can lead toward policy change, whether through changes at the grassroots/citizen level or direct engagement with policymakers.. 10:21:29 From Jessie Robertson : I totally agree, Mary Beth 10:21:58 From Christa Mulder : Jessie, that's one of the potentially positive impacts of the Fostering Science group. Many of the foster parents, social workers, etc. have never had any interaction with the university or scientists or may even be somewhat hostile towards us. The provide provides a completely non-threatening link and show scientists as people. 10:22:44 From Jessie Robertson : That's awesome, Christa. I appreciate hearing that these connections are being made. 10:23:26 From Brian Buma : I have to take off to get kids to their next online school business, will return1 10:23:28 From Brian Buma : ! 10:23:31 From Jason Downing : Breakout Discussion Materials: http://www.lter.uaf.edu/sympo/2020/BreakDiscussionMaterials.pdf 10:23:43 From Teresa Hollingsworth : Brian- I have to do the same! 10:24:03 From Christa Mulder : Teresa, good point on CO fires. Things might look different here next summer! 10:24:20 From Diane Wagner : I have to teach . Thanks everyone! 10:24:54 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : Teresa, agreed but Fairbanks has other air quality challenges that would pose similar tradeoffs! 10:57:09 From Mary Beth Leigh : Group order: 1. Lee 2. Becky 3. Merritt. 4. Helene 5. Jason S 6. Christa 7. Tamara or other member of that group 11:00:37 From ursel schuette : thank you for a wonderful meeting!! 11:06:09 From Katie Spellman : Sara Tabbert 11:10:06 From glennjuday : Terry Chapin’s video image has a halo. Is this significant? 11:10:34 From Christa Mulder : We're hoping to include $$ for a dedicated science communicator in the next proposal. 11:10:42 From Katie Spellman : I was thinking of a prophet Glenn. 11:10:55 From Mary Beth Leigh : Saint Terry 11:10:56 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : +1 Katie 11:11:21 From glennjuday : St. Terry the Wise. 11:11:33 From Christa Mulder : YES to greater inclusion of grad students! 11:12:08 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : Will do that! Might just take a few 11:12:45 From Alison York : putting together synthesis materials is a great challenge for grad students! 11:13:13 From Christa Mulder : Alison, yes, I agree. 11:14:12 From Melissa Lucash : Synthesis with grad students AND PDs might be good too. Esp if it involves collaboration across unis. 11:14:42 From Brian Buma : agreed! 11:15:15 From Christa Mulder : Melissa, that's a great idea. We will have one of the monthly meetings dedicated to planning synthesis of existing datasets. Let's make sure we involve students and PDs in that effort. 11:17:31 From Jason Downing : http://www.lter.uaf.edu/docs/BNZ_SP_Membership_Draft20201006.pdf 11:17:50 From Jason Downing : Full version 11:21:25 From Jason Shabaga to Jason Downing(Privately) : Hi Jason is there a specific place we can send our breakout room notes? 11:21:40 From Melissa Lucash : Does this structure require the individual to initiate the inquiry about level? Many people might feel uncomfortable inquiring about levels. 11:22:03 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : This is so important for BNZ Christa. Setting expectations for involvement will also help our JEDI activities 11:22:08 From Jason Downing to Jason Shabaga(Privately) : just via email 11:22:55 From Jason Downing : http://www.lter.uaf.edu/docs/BNZ_SP_DEI_Draft20201115.pdf 11:24:54 From Jason Downing : DEI Doc: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PZzPN4YtRyQzc2mfNMtFHg3icb1nMb5d/view?usp=sharing 11:25:38 From Jason Downing : correction:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JXkf_0Fp1AOH7jufombYWfv9P4Jceuen/view?usp=sharing 11:26:27 From Jason Downing : and the membership doc: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h3VhcNlKr5GaXghOpm86qZvAueCGZ860/view?usp=sharing 11:26:39 From Katie Spellman : Wondering about seed grants for affiliates 11:27:23 From Katie Spellman : Seem like it could open it up for greater diversity 11:27:31 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : Keep in mind that what BNZ LTER looks like in the future also will need to respond to directives from NSF and the Executive LTER committee. Times are a changing, particularly related to JEDI issues. It’s great to stay ahead of those changes 11:27:48 From Katie Spellman : Associate. Yes 11:27:58 From Robin Andrews : What is JEDI? 11:28:14 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : (Social) justice, equity, diversity and incusion 11:28:15 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : Justice, Equity, Diversity, Inclusion 11:28:20 From Will Cox (he/him) : Justice Equity Diversity Inclusion 11:28:23 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : :) 11:31:31 From Christa Mulder : I like the idea of seed grants. So much of what we do is funded by grants external to BNZ LTER, and sometimes even a very small amount can jumpstart that. 11:32:53 From Christa Mulder : The DEI doc is a work in progress. We're also going to need people to come up with ACTIONS we can take to meet the goals. Sounds like there are quite a few people interested in this. I also think grad students and PDs could play a big role - there is a lot interest in this among them. 11:33:27 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : A BNZ Land Acknowledgement would be quite interesting given the distribution of sites across the interior. 11:34:27 From Christa Mulder : Mario, that's a great example of a very simple thing we can do. 11:36:09 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : For a land acknowledgement, it might be interesting to think about acknowledgements focused obviously on Alaska but also other regions where we all live. My own group (thanks Catherine and Will) put together a land acknowledgement that reflects Guelph, CU Boulder, Alaska, Northwest Territories. It sounds complicated but it is so moving and powerful 11:36:16 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : UAF just officially released on this fall and I’m sure that Margo Griffith would have some helpful insights. I also see that Toolik has their own. 11:37:08 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : +1 Merritt 11:38:01 From Christa Mulder : Just knowing what to write would be so helpful. Our Winterberry program involves 25 communities across the state, but once we know how to properly acknowledge those lands we can share it with everyone. 11:38:17 From Christa Mulder : Merritt, would you willing to share what your lab came up with? 11:39:10 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : Of course. I think we should focus on our program’s are values and steps we are taking towards truth/reconciliation. That way, we capture various institution’s acknowledgements but we can go deeper and better. 11:39:30 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : Our program’s core values. Sorry, can’t type today.... 11:40:10 From Christa Mulder : Very good point. This could be part of a future discussion of DEI / JEDI actions. 11:40:50 From Merritt Turetsky (she/her) : Thanks for an awesome meeting folks. I need to go meet with my executive committee. See you all soon and please stay safe and well. 11:41:02 From Christa Mulder : Bye, Merritt! 11:41:03 From Mary Beth Leigh : Thanks, Merritt! 11:41:04 From Michelle Cailin Mack : Thanks for your input, Merritt! 11:41:04 From Tamara : UAF has been running workshops on writing land acknowledgements. Here’s a link to a past one. They have been repeating it. https://uaf.edu/rural/events/indigenous-peoples-day/IPD%202020%20-%20Land%20Acknowledgement%20Workshop%202020-10-13.pdf 11:41:17 From Jason Downing : http://www.lter.uaf.edu/outreach 11:41:18 From Christa Mulder : Thanks, Tamara!! 11:41:21 From Lindsey Parkinson : one resource for land acknowledgement is this map: https://native-land.ca/ 11:41:35 From Christa Mulder : Hi Lindsey!!! Thanks! 11:41:47 From Melissa Lucash : are their efforts to try to compile a list and potentially support some of the educational orgs that are struggling due to lack of funding? ASRA, RAHI etc. 11:42:12 From Helene Genet : Thank you Lindsey for the link to this great map! 11:42:56 From Christa Mulder : Melissa, that is an interesting idea -we should talk about how we can incorporate into existing programs (though I am afraid ASRA is unlikely to return). 11:43:13 From Lindsey Parkinson : :( 11:45:47 From Christa Mulder : Great to see more research on the education / outreach impacts 11:46:55 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : @Katie, the ESA SEEDS program is a really good opportunity for undergraduate education and outreach. There are some great opportunities (https://esa.org/seeds/). It would be great if we can get some of our undergrads more involved in this program and its opportunities. 11:47:29 From Christa Mulder : Good idea, Mario! 11:49:00 From Katie Spellman : Mario, Terry had us well connected to ESA SEEDS in the past, but we haven’t done a program with them in a while. The time is ripe! 11:49:05 From Mario Muscarella (he/him) : Partially funded by NSF and the Forest Service: so this is perfect for BNZ 11:49:12 From Melissa Lucash : ARcTIC sounds really awesome! 11:49:31 From Christa Mulder : Katie, I saw that berry pun ;-))) 11:49:48 From Jessie Robertson : https://www.sciencemag.org/projects/dance-your-phd 11:49:52 From Katie Spellman : And phenology pun Christa! 11:50:07 From Brian Buma : another integrative effort that folks may or may not be aware of is the Migration in Harmony network for pan-boreal research and artistry. I apologize if it was mentioned, I've been in and out with kids school from home business... 11:50:08 From Brian Buma : https://migrationharmony.org/ 11:50:10 From Christa Mulder : Double points for you, Katie! 11:50:14 From Mary Kaye’s iPad : Thank you for today’s meeting. Have another Zoom meeting starting in 10 minutes. Good bye. 11:50:16 From Brian Buma : NSF funded, has workshops 11:50:38 From Katie Spellman : Very neat Brian! 11:51:00 From Christa Mulder : Brian, what a cool program! Mary Kaye, thanks for being here. 11:51:09 From Lindsey Parkinson : that looks so cool! 11:51:47 From Brian Buma : it's a good group 11:52:09 From Brian Buma : had grant plans for lots of meetings, but it's all remote for now of course 11:54:22 From Melissa Lucash : Great meeting! 11:54:23 From Brian Buma : grad student pictures were awesome 11:54:27 From Todd Brinkman : Great engagement! Important ideas! 11:54:29 From Jessie Robertson : Starting to be part of the LTER and hearing about everyone's research. Also, hearing about the science-art nexus. 11:54:38 From Christa Mulder : I was so glad to see so many artists involved! 11:54:40 From Terry Chapin : An inspirational description of recent progress and future plans 11:54:43 From mark : science outreach and knowledge coproduction. 11:54:47 From North Star Ballet : Discussion in today’s breakout room 11:54:47 From Kristen Manies (USGS) : hearing from wide variety of researchers 11:54:56 From Will Cox (he/him) : Highlight: I always love hearing about the exciting research by all the different working groups (and the potential for future collaboration) 11:54:56 From Helene Genet : Dynamic and integrative discussions. 11:54:57 From mark : sorry Christa that was meant for everyone 11:54:59 From Alison York : All that data 11:55:00 From Helene Genet : LTER ROCKS!!!! 11:55:01 From Mary-Cathrine Leewis : Reconnecting with researchers and hearing updates on all of the research topics from BNZ! 11:55:01 From Zav Grabinski : synthesis of lightning talks this morning 11:55:02 From Lindsey Parkinson : Hearing everyone's voices after being away 11:55:07 From Roger Ruess : Its been great to see everyone creatively working together - what a fabulous group of people!!!! 11:55:09 From Rebecca Eliza Hewitt : reconnecting with the BNZ community and thinking about how microbial ecology can be a major theme for future research 11:55:12 From Teresa Hollingsworth : the strong overlaps in research and science interests 11:55:13 From Jason Downing : Wonderful participation from various stakeholders 11:55:16 From Kara Kornhauser (she/her) : incorporating the community into the science that comes from the LTR 11:55:18 From mark waldrop : I’m excited that there is a much more formal approach to communication, organization, outreach, and so forth. I think it will make a for much improved interactions going forward 11:55:25 From Oralee Nudson : Observing the individual enthusiasm and drive to collaborate with others has been fantastic! Thank you for inviting us to participate! 11:55:28 From Melissa Lucash : Great to connect with other excited about similar topics. 11:55:30 From Robin Andrews : I found the microbial discussions gave me great ideas 11:55:39 From Jamie Hollingsworth (he/him) : all the cool back grounds